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- 7.5 X 53.5mm Model 1889 Swiss issue Schmidt Rubin service rifle.£695. 7.5 X 53.5mm Model 1889 Swiss issue Schmidt Rubin service rifle. Blued action with straight pull bolt serial numbered to the rifle. Walnut stock with finger grooves to the fore end and various Swiss military inspection marks to the butt.
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- Found a Schmidt Rubin 1889 today for $150 and I'm thinking about picking it up. They were kind enough to set it aside for me while I did a little research. I've done some digging online and still have a couple of questions. The rule has been sporeterized, unfortunately, however they did do a very professional job.
Schmidt-Rubin model 1889/96. The Schmidt–Rubin Model 1889/96 was the replacement for the 1889. The biggest change was moving the locking lugs from the rear of the bolt sleeve to the front of the bolt sleeve. This allowed the receiver to be shortened by a small amount. In addition, the change allowed the bolt and receiver to handle more pressure. Schmidt Rubin model 1889 - £595.00. 7.5x53.5 Schmidt Rubin model 1889 straight pull rifle. Low serial numbers ( all matching) Very good bore and action. These are very well made rifle and ahead of their time. No license required as antique/curio.
Schmidt-Rubin 1889
Barrel Length - 30.7 inches: 3-groove, RH, concentric rifling, 1 in 10.63
Overall Length - 51.25 inches
Weight - 10.69lbs empty
Action - Schmidt-Rubin Straight Pull
Caliber - 7.5x53.5 Swiss (GP90 & GP 90/03)
7.5x54.5 Swiss (GP90/23)
Capacity - 12 round detachable box magazine
Sights - Quadrant sight graduated to 2000m
Total Production : ~212,000
Bayonet: Model 1889
Schmidt-Rubin 1896/11 Rifle
Barrel Length - 30.7 inches: 4-groove, RH, concentric rifling, 1 in 10.63'
(approx 6000 96/11s had a twist rate of 1 in 9')
Overall Length - 51.2 inches
Weight - 9.94lbs empty
Action - Schmidt-Rubin Straight Pull
Caliber - 7.5x55 Swiss (GP11)
Capacity - 6 round detachable box magazine
Sights - Tangent-leaf sight graduated to 2000m
Total Production : 127,000
Bayonet: Models 1889,1889/96,1906 & 1911
1906 Bayonet
Schmidt-Rubin 1911 Rifle
Barrel Length - 30.7 inches: 4-groove, RH, concentric rifling, 1 in 10.63'
(S/Ns 350001 to 365000 had a twist rate of 1 in 9')
Overall Length - 51.5 inches
Weight - 10.03lbs empty
Action - Schmidt-Rubin Straight Pull
Caliber - 7.5x55 Swiss (GP11)
Capacity - 6 round detachable box magazine
Sights - Tangent-leaf sight graduated to 2000m
Total Production : 133,000
Bayonet: Model 1911
Model 1911 Bayonet
Schmidt-Rubin 1911 Carbine
Barrel Length - 23.3 inches: 4-groove, RH, concentric rifling, 1 in 10.63
Overall Length - 43.6 inches
Weight - 8.85lbs empty
Action - Schmidt-Rubin Straight Pull
Caliber - 7.5x55 Swiss (GP11)
Capacity - 6 round detachable box magazine
Sights - Tangent-leaf sight graduated to 1500m
Total Production : 184,200
Bayonet: Models 1892 Spike Bayonet, 1911, 1918, 1906 Pioneer (Sawback) and 1914 Pioneer (Sawback)
Model 1914 Pioneer Bayonet
Model 1931 Short Rifle (AKA K31)
Barrel Length - 25.65 inches: 4-groove, RH, concentric rifling, 1 in 10.63
Overall Length - 43.6 inches
Weight - 8.85lbs empty
Action - Simplified Schmidt-Rubin Straight Pull
Caliber - 7.5x55 Swiss (GP11)
Capacity - 6 round detachable box magazine
Sights - Tangent-leaf sight graduated to 1500m
Total Production - 582,230
Bayonet: Models 1918, 1918/55 and 1914 Pioneer (Sawback)
1918 Bayonet
Model 1931/55 Sniper Rifle (AKA Zf. k31)
Barrel Length - 25.65 inches: 4-groove, RH, concentric rifling, 1 in 10.63
Overall Length - 47.55 inches
Weight - 13.5lbs empty (with scope attached)
Action - Simplified Schmidt-Rubin Straight Pull
Caliber - 7.5x55 Swiss (GP11)
Capacity - 6 round detachable box magazine
Sights - Tangent-leaf sight graduated to 1500m
Total Production - 4150
Bayonet: Models 1918, 1918/55 and 1914 Pioneer (Sawback)
For addtional detailed photos go to the K31/55 Sniper Rifle Photo Gallery
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1891 Model 1889 Schmidt Rubin Infantry Rifle(Serial # 192 - Manufactured in 1891)
(Click PIC to Enlarge)
Calibre: ........................ 7.5 x 53.5 Swiss (GP90 & GP 90/03) See Note #2 below
.................................... 7.5 x 54.5 Swiss (GP90/23) See Note #2 below
Rifling & Twist: .............. 3-groove, RH, concentric rifling, 1 in 10.63
Barrel Length: ............... 30.7 in. (780mm)
Overall Length: ............. 51.25 in.(1302mm)
Weight: ........................ 10.69 lbs. (4.85kg) (empty)
Magazine Capacity: ....... 12 round detachable box magazine
Qty Mfg: ....................... ~212,000
Source: ....................... Swiss Magazine Loading Rifles, 1869 to 1958
................................... by Joe Poyer - ISBN: 1882391322
Canadian Collector Market Value Estimate: $
1891 Model 1889 Schmidt Rubin Infantry Rifle
(62 picture virtual tour)
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Observations:(Courtesy of Guisan - Copyright SwissRifles.com)
This rifle was officially adopted on June 26, 1889. Tooling had already begun in the state factory, and so the first deliveries were surprisingly speedy. The M1889 was a most unusual design, with a characteristically Swiss nose cap/bayonet lug/stacking rod assembly, and a receiver with a noticeable gap between the trigger guard and the magazine. The great length of the bolt weakened the Schmidt system greatly. Production ceased in 1897 after 211,890 rifles and 40-50 drill rifles (Exerzierwaffen) had been delivered.
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Schmidt Rubin 1889 Value
1. The rifle displayed in the virtual tour pictorial was manufactured in 1891 and is one of the first 200 rifles of this model ever built. It is all matching and is complete with the first model 1889 muzzle cover, correct for M1889 rifles within serial number range #1 to #19301. It's also mounted with the special removable clip to hold magazine lever in down position, often missing from these rifles.(Feedback by 'Badger')
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2. CAUTION: DO NOT shoot the M1889 Schmidt-Rubin using standard 7.5 x 55 Swiss (GP11) military surplus ammunition. The chamber of the M1889 was not designed to handle the pressures generated by the more modern GP11 round. The Model 1889 action was designed to handle rounds that generated at most 39,000 psi, while GP11 rounds produce 45,500 psi. It is safe to fire modern 7.5 x 55 Swiss (GP11) rounds in Model 1896/11s, 1911s and K31s. If you wish to fire your M1889, you are going to have to reload your own cartridges. (Feedback by 'Badger')Schmidt Rubin 1889 For Sale
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It is true that you should not fire GP-11 in a M1889, but the chamber isn't the reason. The concern is instability buckling failure of the bolt. In the Lg1889, the locking lugs are at the rear of the locking sleeve. The bolt assembly acts as long column with a wobbly joint in midspan. In the Lg1889/96, the lugs were moved to the front of the locking sleeve and made a little larger. This made the bolt 'column' significantly shorter and stabilized the back end, eliminating the 'wobbly joint'. The larger contact area of the lugs allows for higher pressures without increasing stresses. Thus, when the GP-11 cartridge was developed, the Lg 1889/96 was suitable for rebarreling to the 7.5 x 55 cartridge, and nearly all of that model were so-converted and became known as the Lg 96/11. It was determined that the original Lg1889 was not suitable for conversion because of the bolt issue. The GP-90/23 cartridge was developed for the Lg 1889 so that users of that obsolescent arm would have a full metal jacket cartridge. Firing of GP-11 ammunition in Lg 1889 rifles was not authorized, except during the WW II emergency, when reservists and Landsturm who still held the rifle were told that they could use the GP-11 for 'war emergency use' only.The original GP-90 cartridge had a lead alloy bullet with an iron or mild steel 'cap' at the nose; the assembly was then paper-patched. The bullet miked about .320-.321 over the patching. The neck of the 7.5 x 53.5 chamber was overly large to accomodate this projectile; and the leade of the chamber was both long and the angle very shallow to guide the projectile into the bore wihout tearing the paper patch. This is the reason that the Lg1889 did not perform paticularly well with GP-90/23, and the reason they don't do real well with our typical .308' bullet handloads (as compared to the rest of the S-R family and the K31).
I have done chamber casts of the three that I own; the length of the chambers on all is substantially greater than the '53.3' of the cartridge name. In fact, the chambers are long enough, and the chamber mouth is of such diameter that 'pinching' of the case mouth of an errantly-fired GP-11 cartridge would not be an issue. A GP-11 cartridge would not be expected to generate pressure higher than that generated in a proper 7.5 x 55 chamber, and infact might be a little lower because of the freebore that the GP-11 bullet 'sees' in that chamber ... but the pressure developed would be too much for the weaker, wobbly 1889 bolt to tolerate for any length of time.
Take Poyer's book with many grains of salt. Lots of errors in there. (Feedback by 'Bob S')